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	<title>Comments on: Hearing held on Massachusetts slavery-era disclosure law</title>
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		<title>By: Tizziec</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tizziec</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 02:32:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WOW, I guess I owe a big thank you to my history teachers from my past. As I recall, even as far back as grammar school, we learned a heck of a lot more than the kids today about history. My duaghter gets next to nothing, but has it jammed into her brain by her mother :). I wish history, even as little as there is in the system, was taught beyond the names and dates and into the cultural and social aspects as well as the connection to how we live today. I am hoping to be able to teach it that way myself (Hoping I can fight the system enough to make my classes really count). I still think the issue belongs in the world of academia and not the state legeslature.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WOW, I guess I owe a big thank you to my history teachers from my past. As I recall, even as far back as grammar school, we learned a heck of a lot more than the kids today about history. My duaghter gets next to nothing, but has it jammed into her brain by her mother <img src='http://living.jdewperry.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> . I wish history, even as little as there is in the system, was taught beyond the names and dates and into the cultural and social aspects as well as the connection to how we live today. I am hoping to be able to teach it that way myself (Hoping I can fight the system enough to make my classes really count). I still think the issue belongs in the world of academia and not the state legeslature.</p>
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		<title>By: bobbo</title>
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		<dc:creator>bobbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 00:58:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey!==I&#039;m not anonymous, I&#039;m bobbo re Post #3.

Also should have said indentured &quot;servants&quot; for whatever difference there was===I think they couldn&#039;t be beaten to death and that was about it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey!==I&#8217;m not anonymous, I&#8217;m bobbo re Post #3.</p>
<p>Also should have said indentured &#8220;servants&#8221; for whatever difference there was===I think they couldn&#8217;t be beaten to death and that was about it?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 00:56:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, its hard to argue &quot;against education,&quot; but equally as hard to rank order the subjects?  But yea, I agree the study of slavery ((both racial and wage earning)) would be central from a number of viewpoints.

My own remembered grammar school history was that there was slavery all over the place.  American Indians would sit and die rather than work, so African were brought in who would work as well as white indentured slaves who had no other way to pay for their passage.  Pretty slim?  Still left me with the &quot;attitude&quot; that capital/labor had some serious issues.  And that remains true today.

&quot;All men are created equal&quot;==I wonder how many and to what degree the founders understood that to be aspirational?  Not being sarcastic at all, serious questions.  They &quot;knew&quot; it wasn&#039;t true and wasn&#039;t going to be true for years, so what were they thinking?

Nice review of the law/history.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, its hard to argue &#8220;against education,&#8221; but equally as hard to rank order the subjects?  But yea, I agree the study of slavery ((both racial and wage earning)) would be central from a number of viewpoints.</p>
<p>My own remembered grammar school history was that there was slavery all over the place.  American Indians would sit and die rather than work, so African were brought in who would work as well as white indentured slaves who had no other way to pay for their passage.  Pretty slim?  Still left me with the &#8220;attitude&#8221; that capital/labor had some serious issues.  And that remains true today.</p>
<p>&#8220;All men are created equal&#8221;==I wonder how many and to what degree the founders understood that to be aspirational?  Not being sarcastic at all, serious questions.  They &#8220;knew&#8221; it wasn&#8217;t true and wasn&#8217;t going to be true for years, so what were they thinking?</p>
<p>Nice review of the law/history.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 16:43:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tizziec, I agree that our states could do a much better job of educating our young people. This includes the teaching of history in general, and our history of slavery and race in particular.

I would point out, though, that far more children learn the basics of this history in U.S. schools than used to be the case. For instance, when I speak with audiences in this country, most adults say that they are surprised to learn the extent of northern involvement in slavery and the slave trade. Many teenagers and college-age young people, on the other hand, say that they learned this in school. So I believe that our challenge today is as much to educate adults as schoolchildren.

I can&#039;t agree with you that there is no purpose in state legislation mandating disclosure of corporate records on slavery.

While it&#039;s true that university researchers can arrange to gain access to some corporate records, many companies have no interest in opening their archives to outside scholars wishing to explore their historic connections to slavery. If we wish to expand our knowledge of the details and extent of slavery and slavery-related businesses in our history, we do need to explore historical records held by governments, organizations, private individuals, and corporations alike.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tizziec, I agree that our states could do a much better job of educating our young people. This includes the teaching of history in general, and our history of slavery and race in particular.</p>
<p>I would point out, though, that far more children learn the basics of this history in U.S. schools than used to be the case. For instance, when I speak with audiences in this country, most adults say that they are surprised to learn the extent of northern involvement in slavery and the slave trade. Many teenagers and college-age young people, on the other hand, say that they learned this in school. So I believe that our challenge today is as much to educate adults as schoolchildren.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t agree with you that there is no purpose in state legislation mandating disclosure of corporate records on slavery.</p>
<p>While it&#8217;s true that university researchers can arrange to gain access to some corporate records, many companies have no interest in opening their archives to outside scholars wishing to explore their historic connections to slavery. If we wish to expand our knowledge of the details and extent of slavery and slavery-related businesses in our history, we do need to explore historical records held by governments, organizations, private individuals, and corporations alike.</p>
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		<title>By: Tizziec</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tizziec</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 10:37:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just wondering here. If this is a matter of education, why do I not see anyewhere, the acts of the Education Departments of these states in mandating that their schools teach the deeper truth? What is the purpose of STATE legislation mandating disclosure? I am fully behind more in depth teaching of history on the whole, but the truth is, history is certainly NOT stressed as an important part of this country&#039;s educational process. You are lucky if kids know what year we won our freedom let alone anything about slavery outside of plantations and the civil war. I would suggest that the state spend more time mandating that history be taught at all, and let the education department take care of what is taught and how the information is gained. Mass. has some pretty high end colleges that I am sure would be happy to do the research and help develope a better state curriculum, but the way the states are goping about this is just plain WRONG! I will put money down right now and say that it will be years, if at ever, that the schools actually begin teaching history again, let alone specifics on it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just wondering here. If this is a matter of education, why do I not see anyewhere, the acts of the Education Departments of these states in mandating that their schools teach the deeper truth? What is the purpose of STATE legislation mandating disclosure? I am fully behind more in depth teaching of history on the whole, but the truth is, history is certainly NOT stressed as an important part of this country&#8217;s educational process. You are lucky if kids know what year we won our freedom let alone anything about slavery outside of plantations and the civil war. I would suggest that the state spend more time mandating that history be taught at all, and let the education department take care of what is taught and how the information is gained. Mass. has some pretty high end colleges that I am sure would be happy to do the research and help develope a better state curriculum, but the way the states are goping about this is just plain WRONG! I will put money down right now and say that it will be years, if at ever, that the schools actually begin teaching history again, let alone specifics on it.</p>
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