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		<title>By: Trashed and Cast Aside: The Reality of Welfare Stereotypes &#124; Some Things You Might Want to Know:</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trashed and Cast Aside: The Reality of Welfare Stereotypes &#124; Some Things You Might Want to Know:</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 May 2010 02:23:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Political views of welfare recipients can also be seen in the stipulations and implementation of various welfare programs. Benefit Cap (also referred to as Family Cap or Child Exclusion Act) and Compulsory Birth Control Plans regulate the fertility rate by threatening to discontinue the recipients welfare if she has an additional child while receiving public assistance (Thomas, Kelly). Many state legislatures have considered bills designed to force poor women to use contraceptives (Norplant) as a condition of welfare receipt (Thomas). [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Political views of welfare recipients can also be seen in the stipulations and implementation of various welfare programs. Benefit Cap (also referred to as Family Cap or Child Exclusion Act) and Compulsory Birth Control Plans regulate the fertility rate by threatening to discontinue the recipients welfare if she has an additional child while receiving public assistance (Thomas, Kelly). Many state legislatures have considered bills designed to force poor women to use contraceptives (Norplant) as a condition of welfare receipt (Thomas). [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:34:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ld like to see more honesty. I think the gov is making slaves out of the poor populations. The poor are purchased with entitlements along with there votes. They are taught nothing they are kept down by government. The $$$ that goes to the poor does not give a prophit &amp; does not benefit society. The middle class is the primary work-force the government steals form the middle class &amp; upper class and gives it to the poor. &amp; the rich. Unfortunately a disproportionate ### of blacks end up on the gov payroll. Little do they know they are continuing the cycle established some 4 centuries ago that made this country great &amp; shameful all at once ---slavery...   We need to call affirmitive action what it is reparations ---be honest.
Also be honest there is a disproportionate amount of black crime. 
There are a lot of lazy whites and blacks out there should they be rewarded for &quot;Poor Performance&quot; as we reward executives at AIG &amp; Lehmann brothers. 
Sometimes people need help through a rough-spot but if you are taking more from this country than you have contributed you need to be set-free to fend for yourself or die trying. Have some pride. Whether it&#039;s black or white who cares...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ld like to see more honesty. I think the gov is making slaves out of the poor populations. The poor are purchased with entitlements along with there votes. They are taught nothing they are kept down by government. The $$$ that goes to the poor does not give a prophit &amp; does not benefit society. The middle class is the primary work-force the government steals form the middle class &amp; upper class and gives it to the poor. &amp; the rich. Unfortunately a disproportionate ### of blacks end up on the gov payroll. Little do they know they are continuing the cycle established some 4 centuries ago that made this country great &amp; shameful all at once &#8212;slavery&#8230;   We need to call affirmitive action what it is reparations &#8212;be honest.<br />
Also be honest there is a disproportionate amount of black crime.<br />
There are a lot of lazy whites and blacks out there should they be rewarded for &#8220;Poor Performance&#8221; as we reward executives at AIG &amp; Lehmann brothers.<br />
Sometimes people need help through a rough-spot but if you are taking more from this country than you have contributed you need to be set-free to fend for yourself or die trying. Have some pride. Whether it&#8217;s black or white who cares&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 19:13:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shotei, thanks for posting, and you raise a vital issue:

Have our black families had the opportunity by now to recover from the experience of slavery? If so, then it&#039;s time to stop focusing on slavery as an issue for the present day. If not, then we need to finally take our history more seriously. Either way, it&#039;s time for people to learn the truth so that we can come together around appropriate, constructive solutions to our racial problems.

In a nutshell, Shotei, black families have never been able to recover from slavery. For a full century following abolition in 1865, blacks were treated to horrendous, blatant discrimination, both official and unofficial, tangible and intangible, violent and non-violent. During that same century, white families in this country benefited from vast federal programs which largely built the white middle class through financing for education, job training, home ownership, and small businesses.

In the relatively few years since the successes of the civil rights movement, we have made modest progress in closing the racial gap in this country. However, by any objective measure--for instance, income, education, home ownership or financial resources--only part of the gap which existed in 1865 has been closed, and much still remains to be done.

We can trace racial inequality in this country, year by year, from the end of slavery to today. It isn&#039;t all about slavery, since the Jim Crow century played a vital part, too. But this simply isn&#039;t a problem which magically appeared after the end of official discrimination in the 1960s and 1970s. It existed long before, and therefore has its roots in older history.

&lt;i&gt;Blacks have had everything handed to them for so long now that they do not respect properity or anything other people have worked hard to get.&lt;/i&gt;

Shotei, I&#039;ll ignore your stereotyped view that people of a particular race don&#039;t work hard. And I&#039;ll ignore your comment about &quot;properity,&quot; since I&#039;m honestly not sure what you meant to say there.

However, the idea that &quot;blacks have had everything handed to them for so long now&quot; is patent nonsense.

I&#039;m not even sure what you mean by that comment. Do you think, for instance, that programs like affirmative action have given blacks unearned advantages over whites? Or that welfare has benefited blacks more than whites? These are programs which have mostly benefited non-blacks, and have hardly made a dent in racial inequality, much less over-compensated for the relative disadvantage blacks suffer, on average, at the outset in this country.

&lt;i&gt;Is there a white getto?&lt;/i&gt;

There certainly are, Shotei. (I hope you&#039;re aware that the word &quot;ghetto&quot; isn&#039;t specific to black neighborhoods, and in fact originally referred to a particular white community.)

Now, if you&#039;re saying that there are problems distinctive to some black neighborhoods in this country, you&#039;re right. Why is that? Generations of poverty and racial discrimination help to account for much of that; anyone can see that the end of official discrimination in the 1960s and 1970s didn&#039;t magically transform those neighborhoods into one with generations of first-class public investment.

&lt;i&gt;why was it bad? Because no one took care of thier own section of it. &lt;/i&gt;

That&#039;s not true, Shotei. This is about a lack of public investment in &quot;minority&quot; neighborhoods, going back many generations. This is about the consequences of poverty, which can be seen in any poor urban neighborhood, regardless of race. 

&lt;i&gt;It doesn’t cost much to pick up trash in the front yard or mow the grass ....&lt;/i&gt;

Do you really think that the problems of race, the ones being blamed on our long history of slavery and discrimination, can be illustrated by homes with grass that isn&#039;t mowed often enough?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shotei, thanks for posting, and you raise a vital issue:</p>
<p>Have our black families had the opportunity by now to recover from the experience of slavery? If so, then it&#8217;s time to stop focusing on slavery as an issue for the present day. If not, then we need to finally take our history more seriously. Either way, it&#8217;s time for people to learn the truth so that we can come together around appropriate, constructive solutions to our racial problems.</p>
<p>In a nutshell, Shotei, black families have never been able to recover from slavery. For a full century following abolition in 1865, blacks were treated to horrendous, blatant discrimination, both official and unofficial, tangible and intangible, violent and non-violent. During that same century, white families in this country benefited from vast federal programs which largely built the white middle class through financing for education, job training, home ownership, and small businesses.</p>
<p>In the relatively few years since the successes of the civil rights movement, we have made modest progress in closing the racial gap in this country. However, by any objective measure&#8211;for instance, income, education, home ownership or financial resources&#8211;only part of the gap which existed in 1865 has been closed, and much still remains to be done.</p>
<p>We can trace racial inequality in this country, year by year, from the end of slavery to today. It isn&#8217;t all about slavery, since the Jim Crow century played a vital part, too. But this simply isn&#8217;t a problem which magically appeared after the end of official discrimination in the 1960s and 1970s. It existed long before, and therefore has its roots in older history.</p>
<p><i>Blacks have had everything handed to them for so long now that they do not respect properity or anything other people have worked hard to get.</i></p>
<p>Shotei, I&#8217;ll ignore your stereotyped view that people of a particular race don&#8217;t work hard. And I&#8217;ll ignore your comment about &#8220;properity,&#8221; since I&#8217;m honestly not sure what you meant to say there.</p>
<p>However, the idea that &#8220;blacks have had everything handed to them for so long now&#8221; is patent nonsense.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not even sure what you mean by that comment. Do you think, for instance, that programs like affirmative action have given blacks unearned advantages over whites? Or that welfare has benefited blacks more than whites? These are programs which have mostly benefited non-blacks, and have hardly made a dent in racial inequality, much less over-compensated for the relative disadvantage blacks suffer, on average, at the outset in this country.</p>
<p><i>Is there a white getto?</i></p>
<p>There certainly are, Shotei. (I hope you&#8217;re aware that the word &#8220;ghetto&#8221; isn&#8217;t specific to black neighborhoods, and in fact originally referred to a particular white community.)</p>
<p>Now, if you&#8217;re saying that there are problems distinctive to some black neighborhoods in this country, you&#8217;re right. Why is that? Generations of poverty and racial discrimination help to account for much of that; anyone can see that the end of official discrimination in the 1960s and 1970s didn&#8217;t magically transform those neighborhoods into one with generations of first-class public investment.</p>
<p><i>why was it bad? Because no one took care of thier own section of it. </i></p>
<p>That&#8217;s not true, Shotei. This is about a lack of public investment in &#8220;minority&#8221; neighborhoods, going back many generations. This is about the consequences of poverty, which can be seen in any poor urban neighborhood, regardless of race. </p>
<p><i>It doesn’t cost much to pick up trash in the front yard or mow the grass &#8230;.</i></p>
<p>Do you really think that the problems of race, the ones being blamed on our long history of slavery and discrimination, can be illustrated by homes with grass that isn&#8217;t mowed often enough?</p>
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		<title>By: Shotei</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shotei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 16:39:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James how long are you going to blame slavery for everything? Blacks have had everything handed to them for so long now that they do not respect properity or anything other people have worked hard to get. Is there a white getto? How about a white harlem? I&#039;m tired of hearing &quot; oh he came from a bad neighborhood&quot; Bull, why was it bad? Because no one took care of thier own section of it. It doesn&#039;t cost much to pick up trash in the front yard or mow the grass. or to be respectful of others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James how long are you going to blame slavery for everything? Blacks have had everything handed to them for so long now that they do not respect properity or anything other people have worked hard to get. Is there a white getto? How about a white harlem? I&#8217;m tired of hearing &#8221; oh he came from a bad neighborhood&#8221; Bull, why was it bad? Because no one took care of thier own section of it. It doesn&#8217;t cost much to pick up trash in the front yard or mow the grass. or to be respectful of others.</p>
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		<title>By: Having and Giving in Ghana &#171; the ones who are mad to live</title>
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		<dc:creator>Having and Giving in Ghana &#171; the ones who are mad to live</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 21:11:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] women on welfare far outnumber blacks without bearing the same stereotypes. (Read more on this here.) I would hope that one might recognize the racial reasoning behind such [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] women on welfare far outnumber blacks without bearing the same stereotypes. (Read more on this here.) I would hope that one might recognize the racial reasoning behind such [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Bella</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 18:18:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am doing a research project on African American racism and tis is so sad and disturbing to see!!1 Many people don&#039;t know the hardships they went through to  be respected today!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am doing a research project on African American racism and tis is so sad and disturbing to see!!1 Many people don&#8217;t know the hardships they went through to  be respected today!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 07:32:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>excellent</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>excellent</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://living.jdewperry.com/2009/02/stereotypes-about-blacks-and-welfare-persist/comment-page-1/#comment-3754</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 14:03:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, Jon, anyone who spends any time thinking about welfare acknowledges this fact, as I do in another post: &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://living.jdewperry.com/2009/02/welfare-unwed-mothers-and-absent-fathers/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;It is true, of course, that black families are disproportionately represented on the welfare rolls&lt;/a&gt;.&quot;

The important question is: why? Why are blacks more likely to be &quot;on the dole,&quot; as you put it?

The overwhelming factor, of course, is that blacks in this country are disproportionately poor.

This disturbing fact is, in turn, primarily a consequence of our nation&#039;s history of slavery and brutal racial discrimination. Many people like to say that blacks are more likely to be on public assistance, but fail to admit that this history is the major cause.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, Jon, anyone who spends any time thinking about welfare acknowledges this fact, as I do in another post: &#8220;<a href="http://living.jdewperry.com/2009/02/welfare-unwed-mothers-and-absent-fathers/" rel="nofollow">It is true, of course, that black families are disproportionately represented on the welfare rolls</a>.&#8221;</p>
<p>The important question is: why? Why are blacks more likely to be &#8220;on the dole,&#8221; as you put it?</p>
<p>The overwhelming factor, of course, is that blacks in this country are disproportionately poor.</p>
<p>This disturbing fact is, in turn, primarily a consequence of our nation&#8217;s history of slavery and brutal racial discrimination. Many people like to say that blacks are more likely to be on public assistance, but fail to admit that this history is the major cause.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 18:03:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People like to say more whites are on welfare but fail to admit that whites make up 75% of the population compared to 12 % for blacks. This fact makes blacks 4 times more likely to be on the dole.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People like to say more whites are on welfare but fail to admit that whites make up 75% of the population compared to 12 % for blacks. This fact makes blacks 4 times more likely to be on the dole.</p>
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		<title>By: Welfare, unwed mothers, and absent fathers &#124; The Living Consequences</title>
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		<dc:creator>Welfare, unwed mothers, and absent fathers &#124; The Living Consequences</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 21:21:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] have previously posted about the persistent myth that most welfare recipients in this country are black. It is true, of course, that black families are disproportionately represented on the welfare [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] have previously posted about the persistent myth that most welfare recipients in this country are black. It is true, of course, that black families are disproportionately represented on the welfare [...]</p>
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